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The book Roman Military Service is available for free from scribd if you are a subscriber. Thank you for your replies to my post. If I were to redact with a black sharpie pen gang activity and replace with tribal-gang activity would this apply? Believe the following categories of people served in the Roman Legionary at various periods in time: Brttions Pictish , Celts from Various Countries, Phoenicians other North African and Middle Eastern Tribes to Include Persians and Hebrews, not sure what other category of conquered tribes people to throw into the mix. Seems like tattoos were prevalent in tribal cultures not sure which ones specifically though Not sure what the Legionary had to say regarding their standards for admitting such people at that time?
Seems like there was a practice of cutting off of a thumb or fore finger at a certain digit by members of the Roman Command to those tribespeople who had not joined yet this was of a particular era. A Roman Emperor or commander of a certain provence Still must learn and commit to memory the different rank structure and their power structure had given a waver for such "tribal" people to join the Legionary with missing thumbs after a certain period of time? Can you name the Emperor, era and tribe in question?
There is one follow up question.. There are various titles on textiles of found bog people why did the ancient iron age peoples of Europe and Britton put these people in the bog. Was this a gang initiation ritual? Forgive the question I would expect that in Roman times they went soft on the Legionary when it came to prosecution of troops for this type of activity? Lothia Aquilifer.
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Posts: Threads: Joined: Sep Reputation: 8. Ave Civitas, I searched through using discipline as the key word in the post title. I found many comments on discipline meted out to soldiers, but what was the discipline for higher ranking members of the Roman Army.
I know today it is seldom for an officer to be punished with fatigue duty like the enlisted men are subject to and many times the discipline is a "career ending" letter in the permanent personal file, but what was done in the Roman Army for a Tribune or a Centurion who really goofed up?
As always, thanks for your response. One mummy of a chief had a large tattoo of a fish on his leg. To the Scythians the fish represented the deity who was the guardian spirit of horses which were a vital part of any nomad society. Unlike today people didn't get tatts because they look cool.
Description of tattooing process from a Pazyryk mummy website below. Quote: The tattoos are believed to result from the use of bone type needles and a soot mixture was used as the ink. The tattoos are located on the shoulders, arms, hands and legs of the mummies.
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It is not fully understood whether they served a purely decorative purpose, or were used as a magical amulet for a protective purpose, or both. Getting back to discipline, in regards to auxiliaries, were they punished like Roman legionaries or was discipline maintained by their own tribal punishment system in house. I am sure that by the end of Western Empire enforcement of discipline was done differently to how it was administered in Republican times as the late Empire needed auxiliaries a lot more but would be interesting to find out. I had wanted to know more about these topics may not have phrased things in the best manner I will work at this to become better at it.
So as I understand it the tattoos are of cultural and religious significance to the peoples who may have joined the Legionary at that period in history. As akward as the subject is about bog bodies several useful archeological survey books that focus in on the fabric and textiles found on these peoples of antiquity are useful the question I posed is why did they come to be there. It sound like the answer is multi facited and a bit of a mystery still. Caecilius; Thanks for your reply. Good information here.
Modern Military's have had a small problem with gang activity in their ranks I don't want to be more specific but you can google it-not trying to be obstinant just do not want to put too much emphasis on this topic than it deserves. To clarify, I was not sure if there was an Ancient phenomenon happening in the Ranks of the Roman Military with gang activity or something resembling it with tribal allegiances and non conformity.
What I have heard is during the fall of Rome the Legionary was made up of a lot of Foreign Conscript troops that lacked discipline I was not sure if there tribal allegiances won out like a gang. I am new to the topic of Roman History and have a few of my grandfathers books which I have added a few new titles to in the last 6 months to read from. So, I am not completely un read on Roman Military History but I have very few books and am just getting started building my knowledge base.
I dont want to create any misunderstandings here or disrespect anyone. I am just looking at what contributed to the end of the Roman Military with this leading question. Excuse me for the awkward questions. I was surprised to know Ancient peoples had them at all and were allowed to join the Roman Army. For what I understand, the Roman Army went through different stages of recruitment and organization patterns. Mid Republic: the army was a militia made up of citizens performing mandatory military service that they owed to the state, and the army only existed during campaign and was later disbanded.
Late Republic: the army, although officially still a citizens' militia, took on a more professional character, as soldiers enlisted for longer and longer periods and legions became more permanent, although part-time levies were still held to swell up the ranks during emergencies, such as the Social War The principate: the "official transformation" of the Roman army into a professional force, with the legions for citizens and the aulixaries for non-citizens.
During the 1st century, most recruits came from Italy, but over the 2nd century, they became drawn more and more from the provinces, and many sons of veterans also enlisted, making a military career a family tradition. Ethnically, the army would have become very diverse by 2nd century, yet all recruits were drilled to Roman standards and the cultural identity of the army was fundamentally as Roman in character as the legions of Julius Caesar.
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The late empire: the legions system was abolished and replaced with "field armies" and "frontier armies". Due to a shortage of voluntary recruits, sons of soldiers were obliged to enlist and the numbers were further rounded up by an annual conscription. Due to military service becoming increasingly unpopular among Romans, many barbarian volunteers were accepted as replacement for reluctant conscripts, yet just like the ethnically diverse provincial recruits during the principate, they were all drilled to Roman standard.
After the battle of Adrianopole: a crushing defeat of the Roman army made the Romans hire barbarians mercenaries directly into their service, retaining their system of command. By then, "Roman" and "Barbarian" armies became increasingly more similar both in ethnic composition and the tactics and strategy. Talking about "gang activity", soldiers were known to be involved in the extortion, bullying and rape of local civilian populations ever since the late republic.